In recent comments, commenter Pode said:
choosing to be submissive will make a good man more attractive. Choosing an attractive (dominant) man will not make him more good, which is the common female fantasy of the reformed bad boy. The goal is a godly man, one who is both good and dominant. [Emphasis added]
Pode is well aware of the need for a man who is masculine and dominant, but the blind and ignorant masses in the churches are not. In fact, the churches have ongoing programs designed to destroy masculinity and dominance in men.
Give Us A Biblical Example Of A Godly Man
Women in church are taught they should be looking for a “godly man” for a husband. That’s code for an approved product of feminist churchian doctrine. Why? Because they have no clue what a “godly man” actually is. The reason is because they don’t read their Bible. In the land of churchianity one will hear many tales of the so-called “Proverbs 31 Woman” but as the text actually says, “who can find her?“. One does not hear of the Bible’s ideal man from the pulpit, but such men exist. According to God, three men were held in high esteem, Noah, Daniel and Job. (Ezekiel 14:14, 20.)
Of these three men, for many reasons, the character of Job is best suited for study as the kind of Godly man women should be interested in.
Consider what God said to Satan: “Have you considered my servant Job? There is none like him in all the earth.” It shouldn’t be too much of a leap of faith to know that God had a good idea of what all the men on earth were like and He said Job was like no other.
Consider Job, from the description at Job 1:1-3
There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job, and that man was blameless, upright, fearing God and turning away from evil. And seven sons and three daughters were born to him. His possessions were 7000 sheep, 3000 camels, 500 yoke of oxen, 500 female donkeys and very many servants, and that man was the greatest of all the men in the east.”
Now consider Job, in his own words, from Job 29:7-25:
When I went out to the gate of the city,
When I took my seat in the square,
The young men saw me and hid themselves,
And the old men arose and stood.
The princes stopped talking
And put their hands on their mouths;
The voice of the nobles was hushed,
And their tongue stuck to their palate.
For when the ear heard, it called me blessed,
And when the eye saw, it gave witness of me,
When I took my seat in the square,
The young men saw me and hid themselves,
And the old men arose and stood.
The princes stopped talking
And put their hands on their mouths;
The voice of the nobles was hushed,
And their tongue stuck to their palate.
For when the ear heard, it called me blessed,
And when the eye saw, it gave witness of me,
The gate of the city is where the elders and chief men of the city congregated. Job had a seat there as the greatest man in the east. Perhaps the reader has seen a situation in which a man of power arrives and everyone gets quiet. Partly out of respect, partly because no-one wants to miss anything this man has to say. The kind of man that when he enters a room every head turns, a murmur goes through the people and everyone is aware he has arrived. He dominates.
Why is this man held in awe? Job describes himself:
Because I delivered the poor who cried for help,
And the orphan who had no helper.
The blessing of the one ready to perish came upon me,
And I made the widow’s heart sing for joy.
I put on righteousness, and it clothed me;
My justice was like a robe and a turban.
I was eyes to the blind
And feet to the lame.
I was a father to the needy,
And I investigated the case which I did not know.
I broke the jaws of the wicked
And snatched the prey from his teeth.
And the orphan who had no helper.
The blessing of the one ready to perish came upon me,
And I made the widow’s heart sing for joy.
I put on righteousness, and it clothed me;
My justice was like a robe and a turban.
I was eyes to the blind
And feet to the lame.
I was a father to the needy,
And I investigated the case which I did not know.
I broke the jaws of the wicked
And snatched the prey from his teeth.
Consider all the things Job was that are not mentioned. Job was quite wealthy and had great economic power. Job had many children and had obviously been blessed by God. Then consider what was said, inasmuch as he used his position to do what was right. Having gathered to himself power and wealth, he used it judiciously for good.
It is significant (in keeping with his position) that he put on righteousness and it clothed him, his justice was like a robe and turban. He investigated the case he did not know, meaning that he took the trouble to know and understand what was happening to the people around him. That righteousness and justice that he exercised from his place of power in the city gate means he took responsibility for those under him.
And he broke the jaw of the wicked and snatched the prey from their teeth. The meaning of this is clear and it’s a shiv to the heart of churchian cucks everywhere because Job was a man of action. He didn’t just look at what was happening and whine about it, he did something about it. Decisive, appropriate and possibly violent action.
Consider the violence implied with the statement that he broke the jaw of the wicked, then consider the implications. He broke their jaw and snatched the prey from their teeth because they could no longer crush the prey in their jaws. They could not catch prey or eat it with a broken jaw, their power was broken. When there is money on the table and it’s people with a latent capacity for violence, violence is going to be on the menu.
Then I thought, ‘I shall die in my nest,
And I shall multiply my days as the sand.
My root is spread out to the waters,
And dew lies all night on my branch.
My glory is ever new with me,
And my bow is renewed in my hand.’
And I shall multiply my days as the sand.
My root is spread out to the waters,
And dew lies all night on my branch.
My glory is ever new with me,
And my bow is renewed in my hand.’
Job knew what his position was and what kind of man he was. He operated from a position of strength and his vision is to the future. The man knows what he is about. And we go back to how he is perceived by others. Job was a man who was held in honor by other men because his life testified to the fact he deserved honor.
To me they listened and waited,
And kept silent for my counsel.
After my words they did not speak again,
And my speech dropped on them.
They waited for me as for the rain,
And opened their mouth as for the spring rain.
I smiled on them when they did not believe,
And the light of my face they did not cast down.
I chose a way for them and sat as chief,
And dwelt as a king among the troops,
As one who comforted the mourners.
And kept silent for my counsel.
After my words they did not speak again,
And my speech dropped on them.
They waited for me as for the rain,
And opened their mouth as for the spring rain.
I smiled on them when they did not believe,
And the light of my face they did not cast down.
I chose a way for them and sat as chief,
And dwelt as a king among the troops,
As one who comforted the mourners.
Why Don’t We Hear More About Job?
Job was a great man, one held in high esteem by God. For all of the lessons that the book of Job provides, why is it that we only hear about his suffering? The easy answer is that Job is the place to go for someone who desires to understand the nature of suffering from God’s perspective. This allows Job to be ignored for the other aspects of his story and character that we could learn from. The truth is that the other aspects of the story are not points that the church wants to discuss at this point.
Churchians get extremely uncomfortable with a man who displays the kind of masculine dominance that Job is describing. And that potential for violence… it gives the cucks cold shivers up and down their thin little spines. That isn’t surprising at all, but notice one thing. In all of this, did you notice where Job “gave all the glory to the Lord” in his description of himself? Did you notice anywhere in the entire passage where Job did that?
There is a special toxic variety of Christianity that is known as worm theology. The idea of “I’m just a worm, I can do nothing. I accomplish nothing, I am weak and powerless, it’s only Christ working through me that allows me to do anything.” Regular readers will understand how hard it is for me not to puke just writing those words.
Worm theology is an extra-toxic feminist witches brew that is used to cut the legs out from under men. Under worm theology Job would be automatically attacked for being filled with pride and arrogance because he didn’t give praise to the Lord. Naturally the Proverbs 31 woman would never be subject to such an attack because worm theology only applies to men.
It is only within the context of understanding who and what Job was that we can understand the significance of what Satan was allowed to do. Satan destroyed Job’s wealth, taking it all away. He killed his children and destroyed his posterity. Eventually he was left with nothing, physically afflicted with sores and boils on his body. And notice that this is always what is focused on.
The Dark Side Of Job’s Story: His Wife
It wasn’t that Job was just a man that God allowed Satan to harm, it’s that Job was spectacular. When God praised him to Satan, He said that there was none like him in all the earth. The darker side of this story is the way Job’s wife treated him when Satan got done with him (Job 2:9-10).
Then his wife said to him, “Do you still hold fast your integrity? Curse God and die!” But he said to her, “You speak as one of the foolish women speaks. Shall we indeed accept good from God and not accept adversity?” In all this Job did not sin with his lips.
His wife had a great man, a Godly man. And after many years of marriage, when he had everything taken away from him, what was her reaction? Do we see that fabled female comfort and empathy? Did she nurse him back to health? No.
When he was down, she kicked him.
She attacked him for holding fast to his integrity… Think about that. She knew her husband and she knew he’d done nothing wrong. But, he’d been wiped out and having lost it all, in her woman’s eyes, he was a nobody now. He didn’t have anything so he was no more use to her, so she told him to die. The subtext is she wished he was dead. And before the women say “NAWALT!” that is, in fact, the normal and predictable response of women.
Women will object to that, but where’s the description of the faithful and loving wife caring for her husband who has been struck down? Where’s the tender and merciful care for him? The empathy for his suffering? It isn’t there. Instead, when he was down and hurting, she kicked him. The one person he had left… and she betrayed him.
The Consequences For Kicking Him When He Was Down
From the context of the story, it appears that even the youngest of the children was an adult. If we figure 2 years between children that’s 20 years and another 20 years for the youngest to reach adulthood, so 40 years. If we assume his wife started having children when she was 20, then at the time Job got run over by the Satan train his wife was at least 60. From the context of the story, we presume that Job’s wife was the mother of his 10 (dead) children.
The question is, what about the next 10 children? Is there any reason to believe this woman was their mother? In the final chapter we learn that God restored Job’s fortunes, giving him double what he had before. Job also had another ten children and he got to see his sons and grandsons, down to four generations.
After what his wife had done and given her age, does anyone really believe that she gave him another 10 children? It is far more reasonable to presume that Job took a second wife (a younger one) and she is the one who gave him the daughters who were the fairest in the land. The implied polygyny here is another reason why churchians don’t want to look at this story too closely.
Job lived for another 140 years after these events and while we don’t know how old Job was when these events happened, judging by his children he was at least 60. In addition, Job said “Oh, that I were as in months gone by… As I was in the prime of my days” (verses 2, 4) which indicates he thought he was no longer in his prime. Perhaps 70-90 years old? We do not know, but we do know that he fathered another 10 children and it is highly unlikely the wife who kicked him when he was down was the mother of those children.
There is no record of his wife dying, but there are two good reasons to believe he took a second wife. The first and most obvious is the way his wife betrayed him. The second is the fact he had 10 more children. There are consequences for kicking a man when he’s down because that’s the kind of thing a man does not forget after he gets back on his feet.
Obviously that is completely contrary to the narrative of today’s feminized cucks in the church. Their idea of “godly” men is a man who supplicates himself to women. A man who would instantly forgive and forget the kind of betrayal Job’s wife heaped upon him when he was hurting the worst.
Accountability
The number one thing about the ideal man (and Job is the leading candidate for an example) is the implied accountability for his wife. The Godly Christian husband is commanded to love his wife as Christ loves His church. The best example of how this actually happens is in Revelation 3:19, in which Christ is speaking to His church:
“Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. Be zealous therefore and repent!”
In other words, the husband presents his wife as “having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and blameless” by holding her accountable for her behavior. Just as Christ says He will hold accountable those whom He loves. A Godly man is a just man who does his duty, but what the feminist narrative cannot tolerate is a man who holds a woman accountable. This is the feminist perversion of the ideal husband.
Job’s first ten children mocked God by mixing his teachings with heathen religions in an attempt to justify their perverted lifestyle; +their dark and evil traits were inherited from their wicked Mother Dinah.*
I was looking for information on job’s second wife and came across this site: http://home.earthlink.net/~thogmi/job/job.html
It would not originally thought, I just thought it would make Mr toad smile. I listen to it and and thought why not. I’m not trying to be the disrespectful.
I would say I apologize that I would afraid of you taking that as sarcasm
I am sorry. I’ve only listened to five times in my live. I was not trying to torn Dow Job but rather to point a recap of Dinah.
As I indicated , Iwas googling how to find the indication of the second Wife because I I do not know the Bible as well and the two of you do.
I thought I remembered reading something about Job 2nd wife. That’s when I found the link. I thought the password was interacting in mistakenly believe that Job kids were wicked
Sir Long story short I was trying to make the by pointing out something obvious about that woman who is married to Joe
I only listened to Job five times in my life. I perceive that you have a deep hatred of Churchians I am severely in deservedly chastened having you referred to me as one. Thank you for showing me my arrogant them thinking that I understood the word of God.
true that Job was the oldest book in the Bible existing before the time of Abraham? By which I mean Job lived in the time period time Between Noah and Abraham. Or in other words, that Moses wrote Job before he wrote genesis?
Sir I adked with no sarcasm irony or or disrespect. Rather I wonder if there were more fest before the covenant of Abraham better never mentioned due to God not important for it
http://biblehub.com/job/31.htm
Here he keeps a vow not to lust after another woman lest God bring judgement on him
>1″I have made a covenant with my eyes; How then could I gaze at a virgin?
The following verses describe how God sees and judges the behavior of men and punishes the wicked.
>9″If my heart has been enticed by a woman, Or I have lurked at my neighbor’s doorway,
>10May my wife grind for another, And let others kneel down over her.
If he committed adultery he said it would be only just if he was cuckolded, he had this level of commitment and was such a well renowned man of status and good character and she still kicked him when he was down. If you lose, no matter how you lose and no matter who you were, expect no one* to care for you (notice jobs friends constantly insinuate that he’s done evil because they refuse to believe misfortune can fall on the just).
I’ve been reading your blogposts over the past few days and I saw this when I was looking over matthew last night, I don’t think this is true in light of verses in Matt. 19
HCSB
>8He told them, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because of the hardness of your hearts. But it was not like that from the beginning.
>9And I tell you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”
>In verses 9 and 10, Job is talking about being killed
The few times I’ve heard this verse preached or read it I’ve never heard or thought that he was dead. I feel like it’s similar to hosea where he’s told to marry the prostitute then he’s told again to marry and buy the adulterous woman from slavery, one of the commentaries makes the argument that they’re the same woman but she’s run off and is the slave of her new lover and he has to go buy her back. Assuming that’s a correct interpretation the same thing could be being described in Job, God curses him and his wife runs off to and becomes someones concubine/slave. Even in modern times runaway girls often become sex slaves, pimps picking up runaway girls (or encouraging them to runaway) is one of the big sources of underage prostitution this provides the logical argument for how he could be alive and his wife’s someones slave.