Solutions and Silver Linings to Dark Clouds

This is a follow-up to the last post, in which I outlined what I think is the biggest problem the church faces today. The first aspect of the problem that needs to be recognized is it happened because God did it and it’s a punishment.
Before anybody thinks Toad has gone off his rocker, Romans 1:18-32 describes the wrath of God being poured out on a world in which people do not acknowledge, honor or worship Him. That wrath is poured out in three distinct phases. First, God gave them over to impurity that they might be dishonored in their bodies. The second time God gave them over to depraved passions. The third time God gave them over to a depraved mind.
Given the specific issues involved (especially Romans 1:26, the women giving up the “natural function”) it is apparent to me that passage is a prophesy which has already come to pass for Western Civilization. It started in the period of the 1960’s with the replacement of absolute (Biblical) morality with moral relativism. There was an explosion of infidelity, promiscuity, divorce and adultery as people rejected God’s standards and replaced them with their own. A generation later in the 1980’s we saw the depraved passion of feminism explode into the public consciousness as women gave up the natural function of women and began to truly hate men. Likewise, the men gave up the natural function and homosexuality experienced explosive growth. They received the due penalty in their own bodies with the devastation of AIDS. A generation later with the 2000’s we see the cycle complete with evidence of depraved minds surrounding us.
I have spent the past few years studying Biblical family, marriage and sex; and the results of that study have been surprising. Or, perhaps they should not have been surprising… because it’s obvious the average church-goer cares far more about what others think about them than what God thinks about them. the more I dug into this, the worse it got. Finally, it got to the point that I started all over from the beginning. I had previously thought the major issue was divorce and remarriage in the church, but I was thinking of “official” marriage and divorce.
As discussed in the last post, when we start with the concept of marriage and take it from there, things get interesting. There are multiple passages in Scripture that deal with marriage, but the critical passage is Exodus 22:16-17 because that passage clearly states when a man and a virgin have sex they are married unless the father refuses to allow it. Since there isn’t any dowry or bride-price for virgins any longer, the fact is, sex with a virgin is the act of marrying her.
However, one thing we do not want to do is create a doctrine based on a shaky foundation, so we must rigorously test this. The on-point passages are Deuteronomy 22:13-21; 28-29; Numbers 30:2-5 and Judges 21. Comparing Exodus 22:16-17 with Deuteronomy 22:28-29 and contrasting those passages with the punishment of the virgin in Deuteronomy 22:13-21, it becomes evident there is no other way to take Exodus 22:16-17 except as a definitive statement that “taking a woman’s virginity is the act of marrying her.”
This creates a huge dilemma for a great many people. I strongly suspect the reason we have such a strong tradition of marriage ceremonies is directly related to this. We started off with people who understood clearly that the act of taking a woman’s virginity was to marry her and if her father refused he was annulling the marriage, not preventing it (yes, splitting semantic hairs, but necessary). The act of annulling the marriage was to rescind the woman’s agreement and invalidate the marriage after the fact, not to prevent it, and the father had 24 hours (“on the day”) to annul her agreement.
However, we notice that in verse 16, this Law specifically applies to “between a man and his wife; and between a father and his daughter in her youth in her father’s house.” The father does not have the right to annul the marriage of a woman who gave her virginity to a man while no longer in her youth, living in her father’s house.
Again, this creates a huge dilemma for many people and there is tremendous pressure for people to dismiss this as simply too preposterous to consider. However, we have two examples of people who were in this situation and a record of what happened. The first is found in 2nd Kings 22-23. Josiah was 26 years old, having ascended to the throne of Judah at the age of 8. He was the son of Amon, an evil king, and the grandson of Manasseh, a truly evil king, but “he did right in the sight of the Lord and walked in all the way of his father David, nor did he turn aside to the right or to the left.”
In the 18th year of his reign a copy of the book of the Law (which had been lost) was discovered during a renovation of the Temple. The book was taken to the king and read in his presence. When he heard the words of the book, Josiah tore his clothes and sent men to inquire of the prophets, saying “great is the wrath of the Lord that burns against us, because our fathers have not listened to the words of this book, to do according to all that is written concerning us.”
They went to Huldah the prophetess, who said:
“Thus says the Lord, Behold, I bring evil on this place and on its inhabitants, even all the words of the book which the king of Judah has read. Because they have forsaken Me and have burned incense to other gods, that they might provoke me to anger with all the work of their hands, therefore My wrath burns against this place and it shall not be quenched.”
“But to the king of Judah who sent you to inquire of the Lord thus shall you say to him, ‘Thus says the Lord God of Israel, regarding the words which you have heard, because your heart was tender and you humbled yourself before the Lord when you heard what I spoke against this place and against its inhabitants that they should become a desolation and a curse, and you have torn your clothes and wept before Me, I truly have heard you, declares the Lord. Therefore, behold, I will gather you to your fathers, and you shall be gathered to your grave in peace, neither shall your eyes see all the evil which i will bring on this place.”
Read the entire story, both chapter 22 and 23, but pay particular attention to that passage because it is critical. First, God plainly tells the King that judgment is coming because His wrath has been kindled and it will not be quenched. Second, because Josiah’s heart was in the right place, he will be spared (and his people with him) from seeing the day of the Lord’s vengeance on His own people.
How is this any different from out situation today? The wrath of God is being poured out but salvation in Christ awaits all who call upon the Name of the Lord, confess their sin and repent of their wicked ways. Churches talk a lot about calling upon the Name of the Lord and confessing sin, but there seems to be a strange silence when it comes to repentance.
Look at what Josiah did. First, he gathered the people and they had the book of the Law read to them. Then, the King stood by the pillar and made a covenant before the Lord (a vow) to walk after the Lord and keep Hi commandments and His testimonie and His statutes with all his heart and all his soul and carry out the words of this covenant that were written in this book. And all the people entered into the covenant. After that, King Josiah spent the rest of his life striving with all his might to enforce the book of the Law in his kingdom. He tore down the high places, he broke the altars of Baal, he forbid the rituals and re-instituted the passover and new moons feasts. In the end he received the testimony of the Lord that he was the greatest king, for none before him had served the Lord with all their heart, all their soul and all their might and none like him came after.
Josiah did not just confess his sin, he repented. He did all he could to ensure that God was honored and God’s Law was observed, that the people would keep the commandments of the Lord.
Now, we turn to the book of Ezra, and the story of the mixed marriages in chapters 9 and 10. A group of Hebrews under the leadership of Ezra journeyed back to Jerusalem from Babylon with the blessing of King Artaxerxes, but after arriving Ezra was informed that some of the men had violated the commandment not to take foreign wives. After calling all the people together (like Josiah) an agreement was made amongst the people to repent of their transgressions and they put away their foreign wives, some of whom had born them children. In total, 113 men had their names listed forever in Scripture, by name, for the sin of marrying foreign wives and they fulfilled their oath and put them and they children they had by them away.
Sounds pretty rough, doesn’t it? Let’s keep a few things in mind from what we’ve seen. The attitude of the person who hears the command of the Lord, confesses their sin and repents is something God honors.
The idea that taking a woman’s virginity is the act of marrying her is preposterous to many today because the tradition states “just because you have sex doesn’t mean you’re married.” In a way, that’s true, because in the case of a non-virgin sex does not create marriage, it usually creates a case of adultery. In the case of a virgin, her father (and only her father) has the right to say that and if he says it when he first hears of it then he is annulling the marriage.
Just as with the traditions of the people in the time of King Josiah, when the people bowed down and worshiped foreign gods, the traditions today concerning marriage and sex are very powerful and I am certainly no king Josiah. So, it seems to me that with the Law clear and the examples we have of both Josiah and Ezra, if the person who has finally heard and understood the command of the Lord humbles themselves, confesses their sin and repents of their sin, God will judge righteously.
First, ascertain the situation and status.
Perhaps some have heard the old saying “mama’s baby, daddy’s maybe.” The fact is, only the woman truly knows who she gave her virginity to if she willingly did it, and I proceed from the standpoint of the woman.
marriage flow chart2
So, if you’re married, it gets a little complex, because that drags a bunch of other stuff into this, specifically Deuteronomy 24:1-4 and 1st Corinthians 7:10-15, but I neglected to mention one thing on that chart. The question of whether your father annulled the marriage really devolves to whether your father actually found out about the marriage. Did he? If you did it “in your youth living in your father’s house” and maybe he was one of those “don’t ask – don’t tell” guys, go to your father, confess what you did, explain why it’s important and ask him to pray and tell God that he is refusing your marriage to the guy you gave your virginity to.
Keep in mind, that you maybe ought to have him read all of Numbers 30, because there *is* that part in there that says the guilt will be on his head if he does it. I just can’t see the guy you married getting upset about it when he doesn’t know he married you.
But, maybe that won’t work, so let’s graph this out:
marriage flow chart
If the guy you married isn’t a Christian, contact him, tell him you joined a cult that believes you’re married, and ask him for a certificate of divorce (Deuteronomy 24:1-4). All he has to do is write that he’s divorcing you for adultery and sign it. You’re divorced and you don’t ever have to show it to anybody. Just because he’s not a Christian doesn’t make him the non-believer who left you. You may very well have dumped him. Play it by the book and get a certificate of divorce. If necessary, offer to end it with a bang: it’s not like it’s a sin because until he signs that paper he’s your husband.
If he won’t do that, ask him when you should move in with the kids. When he says he isn’t interested, you’re free (1st Corinthians 7:15). If he does want you back, you have to consider that you have a choice. 1st Corinthians 7:10-11 says that since you’ve already “left” him, you are to remain single (chaste) or be reconciled to him. That’s the choice.
Now, here’s where a bit of investigation might help. If he’s married, you don’t want to tell him that he’s got the right to have more than one wife. That might interest him. If he’s been divorce raped and hates his ex, find out how to act just like his ex. That should fix the problem. Being stupid got you into this mess but that doesn’t mean you have to continue with that plan… and ultimately it’s his decision, so why not give him some incentive to decide the way you want him to?
If the guy claims to be a Christian, 1st John 2:2-6 applies. If he won’t be reconciled to you, present your case to the elders of your church and ask for their judgment. They won’t want to but since they won’t agree with any of this from a doctrinal standpoint and they don’t have to put anything in writing, they’ll probably go along. Cry. That always helps. Since he isn’t being obedient to the Word (1st Peter 3:7- “husbands live with your wives”) ask for a judgment of excommunication. They can excommunicate him, that makes him the unbeliever who will not consent to live with you and you’re free. (“Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven and whatever is loosed on earth will be loosed in heaven”)
If the guy claims to be a Christian but is married to another woman, you’ll probably get the same answer, but this time when you present it to your elders point out that there is nothing to prevent a man from having more than one wife and he obviously has 2 wives as far as God is concerned but he isn’t treating you equally (see Exodus 21:10) by providing equal food, clothing, shelter and conjugal rights. Again, ask for a judgment of excommunication.
Trust me on this, the Toad has enormous experience with the reactions of church-folk when they’re confronted with some of the stuff Scripture allows but happens to fall outside their comfort zone. If the guy is a serious conservative Christian, find a friend to help you. Your ideal friend will be dressed like a slut, tatted up with a skrillex haircut, piercings and have no hesitation about a bit of groping and swapping spit with you in front of the guy. Tell him it’s OK, she’s your girlfriend and the two of you are *really* close but you’re the only one that likes guys. She hates them. If necessary, have said girlfriend snort a line in front of him and offer him some.
If you really want to wiggle out of this, all you have to do is put him in a state of mind in which he absolutely does not want to have anything to do with you. In other words, get in touch with your inner slut, your inner bitch and maybe get in touch with your kinkiest girlfriend. If you don’t have any of those, go find a dyke bar and tell a few of the the girls there your story about your need to make a seriously bad impression on a fundie Christian guy. If they’re anything like the ones I know they’d get a kick out of helping out with something like that and probably wouldn’t even hit on you (much).
But, you know, wouldn’t it be nice if churches taught what the Bible actually says about marriage? Saying giving your virginity to a guy doesn’t make you married is like saying you’re only married if it happens in a church, you’re wearing white, a preacher officiates, somebody sings a sappy romance song, at least one of the women cries and your mother acts like a pain in the ass. I mean, really? Is that in the Bible somewhere? (no)
The point is, as a Christian, you either want to please God or you don’t, which means you either commit yourself to being obedient to the Word or you don’t. Think about it.

The Top 5 Things Christians Believe That Aren’t True

Let God be true and every man a liar. Tradition can be a good thing, but not when it contradicts God’s Word, adds to God’s Word or adds burdens upon the people that God did not give them.
These are the top five points of “doctrine” that just about all modern Christians and churchians hold which do not agree with Scripture.
1. Divorce between two married Christians is permitted in cases of adultery.
Christians claim they are no longer under the Law of Moses, but the Law of Moses permitted a man to divorce his wife for sexual immorality. However, there is a specific prohibition on two married Christians getting divorced at 1st Corinthians 7:10-11. The exception for sexual immorality is no longer there because for Christians the only exception to the no-divorce rule is if they are married to a non-Christian who leaves them.
Everyone points at the words of Jesus in Matthew 19 and Matthew 5, and they are correct for people under the Law. For those in Christ there is a special prohibition on two married believers getting divorced. This issue is #1 in terms of getting Christians fighting mad, because both Matthew 19 and especially Matthew 5:31-32 made it clear that God will not accept an illegitimate divorce. That means all those Christians who divorced their Christian spouse for adultery/abuse/whatever are not really divorced, they are still married. If the wife “married” another guy, they aren’t really married because the only thing a married woman can do with another guy is commit adultery. If the guy married another woman, he now has two wives, which leads us to the next one:
2. Polygyny is a wrong, marriage is one man and one woman.
God regulated polygyny in the Law. God condoned polygyny in 2nd Samuel 12:8, taking credit for giving David multiple wives. God commanded polygyny in Deuteronomy 25:5-10, the case of the Levirate marriage. God participated in polygyny, stating in Jeremiah 31:31-32 that He had 2 wives. Unlike the specific prohibition on divorce between two married Christians and the specific prohibition on Christians having sex with prostitutes (that was NOT forbidden in the Law), there is no prohibition on polygyny in the New Testament.
Women hate the idea of polygyny because it robs them of their supreme power within monogamy, the ability to refuse sex to their husband. To add insult to injury, in polygyny the wives are forced to compete for the attention of their husband and the only way they can compete is by giving him what he wants: a sweet, feminine, submissive and sexually available wife. Men hate the idea of polygyny because only about 10% of men are Alpha enough to do it and the idea that some guy has a sexual smorgasbord waiting at home drives them crazy with jealousy and envy.
There are many, many arguments that Christians make to try to say that polygyny is wrong. Every single argument fails. I especially like the “Very Words of Jesus!” argument that claims Matthew 19:4-5 is a prohibition on polygyny. That is my favorite because if it was true, there is no Christianity. You see, Deuteronomy 4:2 is a command not to add to the Law or to subtract from it. That is repeated again in Deuteronomy 12:32 and it’s also the last command of the Bible.
If Jesus meant to forbid polygyny in Matthew 19:4-5, He would have been violating the Law of Moses, which is a transgression of the Law, a sin. If Jesus had sinned He would not have been a perfect sacrifice, the payment for sin would not have been made and Christianity would all be a lie. So, Jesus either didn’t prohibit polygyny and He is the Messiah, or He did, He sinned and He is not the Christ. You choose. I go with the no ban on polygyny.
3. Pre-marital sex is a sin.
In Exodus 22:16-17, if a man (doesn’t matter if he is married or not) seduces a virgin, they are married unless the father exercises his rights under Numbers 30 to annul her agreement to marry. In Deuteronomy 22:28-29 the Law says if a virgin is forced to have sex with a man and they are discovered, they are married and the father cannot refuse the marriage. He has to pay a bride price of 50 shekels of silver (very high) and he can never divorce her all the days of his life. In both of these cases, there is no penalty on the man for having sex with the virgin, in fact, sex with the virgin is the consummation of the marriage so it’s actually marriage sex. ‘
There is no mention anywhere in the Law of sex (by either a married man or a single man) of having sex with a widow or a divorced woman. Sex with such a woman, unlike a virgin, is not the consummation of marriage unless the man and the widow or divorced woman agree to marry. There is no prohibition or penalty for having sex with such a woman, just as there was no prohibition on having sex with an ordinary money-for-sex prostitute.
This is the #3 issue that gets Christians riled up like nothing else. When confronted with what the Bible actually says and more importantly, does not say, they squirm like a handful of worms trying to come up with something- anything -in the Bible that will make extra-marital sex a sin. Because it only applies to men and women who are not married.
4. If a husband has sex with a woman who is not his wife it’s adultery.
Maybe, but only if he has sex with another man’s wife. The crime of adultery requires a married woman. No married woman, no adultery. Women really, really hate this because a married man is permitted to have sex with women other than his wife (unless he took a vow to forsake all others- and where do you think that vow came from?) while the women commit adultery if they do it.
5. Female – Female sex is a sin.
There is literally no mention of female – female sex in the Bible, anywhere. Romans 4:15 and 5:13 say (putting the two verses together) “Where there is no Law, there is no transgression and no sin is imputed.” So, if the Law didn’t say it was a sin it isn’t a sin. In the New Testament there were some additional restrictions that only apply to Christians, but again, there is no mention in the Bible of female – female sex. It isn’t a sin.
Where does that leave us?
In really, really bad shape. If I presented any one or two of these issues, the vast majority of Christians respond “That’s impossible. That can’t be!” Presenting just the top 5, a pattern emerges. Not only does it demonstrate that God’s ideas about proper behavior are distinctly at odds from what is being taught in the churches, but it literally turns at least a third of established doctrine on its head.
Unfortunately, it gets worse. One of the points I made is an observation so devastating to the church and society today that I’m willing to bet none of you have seen it. Yes, the thing about Christians not being allowed to divorce their Christian spouse has created a lot of institutional adultery in the church, but one of the others has created a problem so huge that it dwarfs the problem of divorce within the church. Go ahead, look over the list again and Vote.

Which Issue Causes The Biggest Problem In The Church?


All of these issues create problems in the church, but one of the big problems (not the biggest) is the effect wrong teaching and doctrine has had on our definitions of terms that are used over and over again in the New Testament. The right of a man to have more than one wife and the fact that a married man having sex with a widow or divorced woman isn’t a sin means that by definition a married man can only commit adultery if he has sex with someone else’s wife.
Terms like Lust, fornication, sexual immorality, adultery, sodomy and even homosexuality are all incorrectly defined by today’s church, causing a lot of problems. But the biggest problem of all is caused by that issue of pre-marital sex not being a sin. The reason is there is no such thing as premarital sex for a virgin because the Law states that if a virgin is seduced, she is married. Her father has the right to annul the marriage when he hears of it and demand the return of his daughter, but people in the church are taught that having sex does not create a marriage. That, unfortunately, does not comport with what Scripture actually says and does not say.
It is critical to understand that when reading the Law, what is not said is just as important as what is said, and in some cases more important.
Read Exodus 22:16-17 very carefully:
“If a man seduces a virgin who is not engaged, and lies with her, he must pay a dowry for her his wife. If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money equal to the dowry for virgins.”
  • The man seduced the virgin and lay with her.
  • The man must pay the bride price for his wife.
  • If the father annuls the marriage (absolutely refuses to give her to him).
  • The man must pay an amount equal to the dowry for virgins.
Consider what this passage does not say:
  • Implied (but not stated) is the virgin agreed to give the man her virginity.
  • Implied (but not stated) is the man knew the woman was a virgin.
  • The text provides no censure, prohibition or penalty for taking her virginity.
  • The text does not give the woman a choice about the marriage, only her father.
The virgin has no agency, and that means her father has the authority to give her in marriage against her will, just as he has the right to refuse her a marriage she wants. His authority under Numbers 30 is such that he can negate or annul any agreement or vow she makes when he learns of it. This point is driven home by Deuteronomy 22:28-29:
“If a man finds a girl who is a virgin, who is not engaged, and seizes her and lies with her and they are discovered, then the man who lay with her shall give to the girl’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall become his wife because he has violated her; he cannot divorce her all his days.”
  • The man does not seduce the virgin, he seizes her.
  • If they are discovered, they are married.
  • The man must pay 50 Shekels of Silver to her father
  • Because he has violated her he cannot divorce her all his days.
Consider now what the passage does not say:
  • The passage does not state the father has a choice in her marriage, she has been seized.
  • There is no penalty for the man if they are not discovered.
  • There is no penalty for the man if discovered, rather, restrictions on the marriage.
  • Nowhere in the text does it state the woman has a choice in whether she’s married.
  • The text provides no information on what happens if they are not discovered.
Comparing the two passages, we see that the man who seduces the virgin and takes her virginity is married to her unless her father does not forbid it. In the case of the virgin who was forced, she is married to him unless they were not caught and her father cannot annul the marriage. An example of getting caught is when the 200 men from the tribe of Benjamin hid in the vineyards outside Shiloh and when the girls came out to dance for a festival they each grabbed a woman to be his wife and took them back home to the land of the tribe of Benjamin.
It should be obvious that the virgin does not have agency (the ability to consent or not consent) because she can be married to the guy who forced her. That, no matter how much it causes women to scream, is not the problem.
The problem is with the fact that the virgin who is seduced is married to the man she gives her virginity to. Any serious study of the Bible reveals that the only acts necessary to initiate a marriage is the intent of the man to marry and if the woman is a virgin, the consummation of the marriage. If the woman is a widow or divorced woman, the initiation of marriage requires the intent of the man, the consent of the woman and the consummation of the marriage.
Because the virgin is a special class of woman who does not have the capacity to consent or not consent to marriage, taking the girls virginity is a public statement on the part of the man that he is marrying her and the act of doing so is the consummation of their marriage. Think about that and reflect on the fact that 80% of “unmarried” Evangelical women report they are no longer virgins.
The Evangelicals got it wrong. The 80% of the non-virgin Evangelical women who are not “officially” married are actually married, don’t realize it and they are committing adultery with every additional partner they bed. Why? Their father had the chance to annul the marriage when he heard of it and did not do so. Seriously. What father today understands what the last two passages even say, much less believes that having her cherry popped means his little girl just got married and he has 24 hours to annul it on the day he learns of it (Numbers 30, the Law of Vows)?
And when that woman finally “officially” walks down the aisle wearing a white gown to get “officially” married, she is doing so as a woman ineligible to marry because she is already married to another man and her “official marriage” is simply institutionalizing her adultery. The point of Matthew 5:31-32 was that God will not accept an illegitimate divorce. How much more so when there was no divorce at all?
How many “married couples” in your church are actually married to each other? It’s pretty much guaranteed that only the ones in which the wife has an N=1 are actually married. The rest are ALL committing adultery unless the woman’s father annulled her marriage after she lost her virginity or if she lost her virginity by being raped and not discovered.
Which is worse? The level of adultery in the church demonstrated by what the Word says, or the fact the people in the church refuse to accept what God said about the initiation of marriage and reject teachings of Scripture in this matter?
The real question is how to fix the problem, but it should be obvious that the problem cannot be solved without first recognizing the magnitude of the problem. The refusal of the church to recognize the issue of fraudulent, illegitimate divorces and “remarriage” in the church is sufficient to demonstrate that this is an intractable problem.