The Judgment of Genesis 3:16
Genesis 3:16 is often referred to as the curse on women, however, because the text does not call it a curse there are many who argue it is not a curse on women. I leave that for the readers to determine.
In the first part of the passage we see God stating that He will greatly increase the pain of childbirth, that the woman will bring her children forth in pain. In the previous judgment we saw that the serpent was condemned to crawl on his belly. Anyone who has ever noticed that a snake crawls on his belly and women bring forth their children in pain should be aware that this judgment carried forward. It did not apply only to that generation and the coming of Christ did not lift the curse. Snakes still crawl on their bellies and women still bring forth their children in pain.
Since no-one questions this, we move on to the second part of that verse, which states
your desire shall be for your husband and he shall rule over you.
In order to understand this we need definitions for the following words:
- desire (teshuqah) A feminine noun; desire. Used in Genesis 4:7 as a desire to conquer and in Song of Songs as a sexual desire.
- husband (ish) A masculine noun; man.
- rule over (mashal) A verb; to reign, rule, have dominion.
Next, we need to understand the fundamental problem with this passage: it’s stated as a logical syllogism. “your desire shall be for your husband and he shall rule over you.” This raises some questions.
- Do all husband’s rule over their wives? Obviously the answer is no. Even in a legal environment in which the husband has all the power, do all husband’s rule over their wives? No. Which is a roundabout way of saying sometimes a wife rules her husband.
- Do all wives desire their husband? It does not matter whether the word is defined as a desire to conquer or as sexual desire, the answer is no either way.
- What about the women who do not have a husband. Do they have no desire for a man until he marries them? Again, obviously the answer is no.
- When a woman desires a man and marries him, does she always continue to desire him? We all know the answer is no.
How can this passage be true if the answers to these questions are all no?
Let Reason Be Silent When Experience Speaks
Perhaps a better question would be “How should this passage be interpreted so that it is true every time and not in conflict with any other portion of Scripture?” In order to understand this judgment it’s of critical importance to understand the events that caused them to be judged.
Remember the four key points of seduction: The right man in the right place at the right time with the right line. Scripture is clear on three of the four points:
- The Serpent was the most cunning and crafty of all the animals, obviously the right one for the job.
- The Garden was without sin, a place of innocence. The perfect place for deception, temptation and seduction.
- The right time… [Was Adam there or not? The right time is when the husband is away]
- The right line was to first bring up the subject of the ONE RULE they had been given. The single point of temptation. The woman cited the rule and the reason given (“You shall not eat of it or touch it lest you die”). The Serpent claimed God lied to them in order to conceal His weakness, that if they ate they would become like God. Reframing the ONE RULE as a deception by God caused her to question the truth and she was deceived by her own solipsism.
She knew the command. She understood the command. And knowing and understanding the command, she was deceived. Female solipsism took over, she coveted the fruit and she ate of the fruit. Look at the elements of temptation in Genesis 3:6 and compare to ( 1st John 2:16):
- the tree was good for food, (the lust of the flesh)
- the tree was a delight to the eyes, (the lust of the eyes)
- the tree was desirable to make one wise (the boastful pride of life)
There is nothing new under the sun. She looked again and saw the fruit was “desirable”. The word translated as “desirable” (chamad) means covet. After the Serpent deceived her, she looked at the fruit again and this time she coveted it. She succumbed to the temptation, took and ate of the fruit. There you have it. Eve broke the commandment and ate of the fruit. So, why is it that she isn’t credited with the first sin? Because she was under authority. After she blew it, the whole thing rested on what Adam did.
And we all know what Adam did. He listened to the voice of his wife and he ate of the fruit. In doing so he knowingly violated God’s command. He did not take his wife in hand and deal with the problem. He did not kick it up the chain of command and give the problem to God. He chose to abandon his post and surrender. That is why the credit for the first sin is given to Adam.
Some claim that Adam was right there and allowed it to happen, but I don’t believe that. The text (in English) says
“she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate.”
Critical to this are the words “ish” that’s translated as “husband” and the word “im” that’s translated as “with”. This passage does not definitively mean Adam was present when the Serpent deceived her and she ate of the fruit, because it can just as reasonably be translated as “she gave also to her man and he ate.” If we are to suppose that Adam was present when the serpent deceived Eve, it means he saw and heard his wife being tempted and then watched her pick the fruit and eat of it, never doing anything about it. There are two problems with taking this view.
The text says the serpent was more crafty and cunning than all the other animals and experience tells us that if a woman is to be seduced she must first be separated from her protector and isolated. The Apostle Paul tells us that Eve was deceived and thus seduced into eating of the fruit. Experience also demonstrates women hate being held responsible and want others to join in what they are doing so the blame can be shared.
The text also states God’s judgment of Creation was “because you have listened to the voice of your wife” and just as important is what God did not say. God did not say that Adam stood by and allowed his wife to be deceived, watched her eat of the fruit He had commanded them not to eat and then decided to join in. God said that Adam listened to the voice of his wife. The implication is Adam was presented with a fait accompli on the part of Eve and she persuaded him to join her with her words.
God’s First Judgment Of Mankind
Look at each of the three judgments, the serpent, Eve and Adam. Each of the judgments contains two parts. First was punishment, second was a change due to what had happened.
- The serpent was condemned to crawl in the dust on his belly. Following that, God put enmity between the woman and the serpent (hint- when you find a woman who likes snakes there’s something wrong with her) and between her seed and his seed. Then came the first prophesy about Christ: that He would bruise the serpent on his head and the serpent would bruise Him on His heel.
- The woman was condemned to greatly increased pain in childbirth, that she would bring forth her children in pain. Following that, God found her to be incompetent and appointed her husband as her guardian, but to ensure she got a competent guardian He created hypergamy in the woman.
- Because of what Adam did, the earth was cursed. The earth would now bring forth thorns and thistles and by the sweat of his brow man would get food to eat. Following that we see something very interesting. All the days of his life man would toil and sweat, until he returned to the ground. He was made from dust and to dust he would return.
In order to understand the change for Adam, we need only look at God’s next words:
“Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”— therefore the L ORD God sent him out from the garden of Eden
The tree of life was not forbidden to Adam and Eve, they had not eaten of it yet. It appears from the text that God’s original intent was for mankind to live forever and the tree of life was part of that. That, however interesting it might be, is not the subject of this post.
Eve was punished for her part in the affair by having her pain in childbirth increased. Because of the circumstances she was found to be incompetent and a guardian appointed for her (he shall rule over you). Eve was the greatest of all women, the first, the only woman created directly by God without sin and not born with a sin nature.
Eve had ONE RULE to obey and living in paradise, a world without sin, with no distractions. Her own words confirm she knew the rule (she didn’t forget) and knew the consequences. Yet, under perfect conditions she was not able to follow the one single rule that she was required to obey. Has any woman ever been born who is better than Eve? No. Eve was the greatest of all.
Eve was completely deceived and she violated the command not to eat of the fruit. Then, she dropped the whole thing in her husband’s lap. Rather than doing his duty and take her in hand, Adam chose to abandon his duty and joined her in eating the fruit, knowing that he would die with her. Then, when God confronted him about it he tried to blame his wife.
Adam was a really nice guy who let his wife lead him and he followed her into sin and death. By definition, Adam was not fit to rule over his wife because as God said:
“you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat from it’;”
What do we call someone who, under ideal conditions, cannot follow even the simplest of rules? They are found to be (judged) incompetent and a guardian is appointed for them. Which is exactly what God did with Eve. However, God is just and God is wise. Adam was part of the problem because he was not fit to rule over his wife. Understand, although was deceived and she transgressed, she did so on Adam’s watch under his authority. Man was appointed guardian over the woman, but Adam’s weakness was also part of the problem.
When everything was in the balance and the world needed an incredible asshole, Adam wasn’t up to the job. He was a nice guy who was so emotionally involved that he was not fit to rule over his wife. He had a choice between his mission (all of Creation) and his wife. When all of creation was on the line he abandoned his mission and surrendered.
In light of that, God created hypergamy in women to help ensure they would get a man who was capable of ruling over them. That is what the “your desire shall be for your man (husband)” is all about. Contrary to common belief, it’s a feature- not a bug. With that in mind, let’s look at hypergamy and the woman’s desire for a man who is fit to rule over her.
Fitness Testing and Desire
One of the very basic observations of Game is fitness testing, also known as shit testing. If we look at the word in Genesis 3:16 that’s translated as “desire” (teshuqah) we see that it’s only used two other times in Scripture. Once as a desire to conquer (Genesis 4:7) and again as a sexual desire (Song of Songs 7:10). The major assumption through the ages is that as used in Genesis 3:16, teshuqah must mean either a desire conquer or a sexual desire. Anyone who knows anything about Game understands that teshuqah means both the desire to conquer and a sexual desire because it describes the process of fitness testing.
A man presents himself before the woman and she observes that he might have what it takes, she tests him to see if he is fit to rule over her. This is an example of the desire to conquer. If he fails the test he isn’t fit to rule her and any attraction she might have had for him dries up and dies. If he blows through her tests like a champ, he demonstrates that he is fit to rule over her and the desire to conquer changes to a sexual desire.
The process of fitness testing involves both dominance testing (shit tests) as well as loyalty tests. This is an ongoing process that will never stop. When a man and woman are married the wife will continue to test her husband and if he goes slack and starts failing her tests, she will respond with more testing. The reason is she wants him to pass the tests and she’s looking for that “line in the sand” that she’s not allowed to cross without consequences. Because rulers have rules.
What happens if the man does not pass her fitness tests? She will grow disgusted with him and eventually she will develop contempt for him. Desire cannot be negotiated. In a no-fault divorce environment in which there are legions of divorce apologists and a State that is ready to come in and enforce a woman’s power over her husband, contempt is generally fatal to the relationship.
The Ruler’s Authority and Responsibility: Numbers 30
There is no substitute for reading all of Numbers 30, in full. Emphasis and dividers added for clarity.
The MAN
Then Moses spoke to the heads of the tribes of the sons of Israel, saying, “This is the word which the Lord has commanded. 2 If a man makes a vow to the Lord, or takes an oath to bind himself with a binding obligation, he shall not violate his word; he shall do according to all that proceeds out of his mouth.
The DAUGHTER
3 “Also if a woman makes a vow to the Lord, and binds herself by an obligation in her father’s house in her youth, 4 and her father hears her vow and her obligation by which she has bound herself, and her father says nothing to her, then all her vows shall stand and every obligation by which she has bound herself shall stand. 5 But if her father should forbid her on the day he hears of it, none of her vows or her obligations by which she has bound herself shall stand; and the Lord will forgive her because her father had forbidden her.
The WIFE
6 “However, if she should marry while under her vows or the rash statement of her lips by which she has bound herself, 7 and her husband hears of it and says nothing to her on the day he hears it, then her vows shall stand and her obligations by which she has bound herself shall stand. 8 But if on the day her husband hears of it, he forbids her, then he shall annul her vow which she is under and the rash statement of her lips by which she has bound herself; and the Lord will forgive her.
The WOMAN NO LONGER BOUND
9 “But the vow of a widow or of a divorced woman, everything by which she has bound herself, shall stand against her. 10 However, if she vowed in her husband’s house, or bound herself by an obligation with an oath, 11 and her husband heard it, but said nothing to her and did not forbid her, then all her vows shall stand and every obligation by which she bound herself shall stand. 12 But if her husband indeed annuls them on the day he hears them, then whatever proceeds out of her lips concerning her vows or concerning the obligation of herself shall not stand; her husband has annulled them, and the Lord will forgive her.
The MAN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WOMAN
13 “Every vow and every binding oath to humble herself, her husband may confirm it or her husband may annul it. 14 But if her husband indeed says nothing to her from day to day, then he confirms all her vows or all her obligations which are on her; he has confirmed them, because he said nothing to her on the day he heard them. 15 But if he indeed annuls them after he has heard them, then he shall bear her guilt.”
16 These are the statutes which the Lord commanded Moses, as between a man and his wife, and as between a father and his daughter, while she is in her youth in her father’s house.
God Does Not Change
The judgment was given in Genesis 3:16, “he shall rule over you.” In Numbers 30 the statutes were given concerning the authority and responsibility of a man over his wife and a father over his daughter while in her youth living in his house.
Notice that three times it is said “the Lord will forgive her” if her father or husband forbids or annuls a vow or obligation. Then notice the final point about the man forbidding or annulling her vows or obligations: “he shall bear her guilt.” That is the responsibility of the ruler.
With that in mind, look at the New Testament and we shall see that while God did not change any of this, He added something more for the Christian man.
Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. 24 But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything.” Ephesians 5:22-24
We can just as easily say the husband is the ruler of the wife, as Christ also is the ruler of the church.
“In the same way, you wives, be submissive to your own husbands so that even if any of them are disobedient to the word, they may be won without a word by the behavior of their wives, 2 as they observe your chaste and respectful behavior.” 1st Peter 3:1-2
The behavior of the husband is not a factor in whether the wife is to submit to him, she is required to submit to him even if he is not in obedience to God.
“You husbands in the same way, live with your wives in an understanding way, as with someone weaker, since she is a woman; and show her honor as a fellow heir of the grace of life, so that your prayers will not be hindered.” 1st Peter 3:7
Notice that the woman is described as the weaker vessel and husbands are to live with the wives in an understanding way. She is his ward, he is her guardian. This reflects the command Paul gave in Ephesians 5:
“25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, 26 so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, 27 that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless.” Ephesians 5:25-27
Notice that the husbands are no longer to just rule over their wives, they are to do so in love. The husband is to love the wife as Christ loves His church. This raises the question: are there any examples of how Christ loves His church? As it turns out, there are two.
“Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent.” Revelation 3:19
This is stated again in Hebrews, but y’all might want to take a look at what these words mean:
7 It is for discipline that you endure; God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom his father does not discipline? 8 But if you are without discipline, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate children and not sons. 9 Furthermore, we had Earthly fathers to discipline us, and we respected them; shall we not much rather be subject to the Father of spirits, and live? 10 For they disciplined us for a short time as seemed best to them, but He disciplines us for our good, so that we may share His holiness. 11 All discipline for the moment seems not to be joyful, but sorrowful; yet to those who have been trained by it, afterwards it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness. Hebrews 12:6-11
A ruler holds his subjects accountable. He instructs, corrects, rebukes and disciplines (punishes) them for their transgressions in order that they might be blameless. Yet, this point is the one that makes the churchian cucks and feminists howl with fury. They claim that it is not a loving act for a husband to take his wife in hand when she needs it.
Does a woman desire a man who makes decisions like this? Do they desire a man who will hold them accountable and punish them, if necessary? Churchians claim the answer is no.
Churchians cannot explain the incredible popularity of the 50 Shades books and movies, but anyone who knows that God said a woman’s desire will be for a man who is fit to rule over her understands this.
If a man wants his woman to desire him, he must be fit to rule. If he is not fit to rule he must become fit to rule. The doctrines of “servant leadership” and “mutual submission” are for men, not husbands and wives. A woman desires a ruler, not a servant. Become fit to rule and stay that way.
Deep down, women want to be ruled, but only by a man who is fit to rule them. How do we know this? Because God said so.
Is it unreasonable for a woman that asked that in her marriage contract discipline be laid out?
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But among most African-American men discipline and what happened to Nicole Simpson brown seems a lot like the same thing. Because most African-American men were raised by women they are notthey are not able to logically little discipline apart from anger. So we should be a 10 minute thanking thanking
Thank you for responding to my comment
I believe it is a huge error in our part to start adding our own words to scripture….the words “fit to rule” are NOWHERE in the text, either in Hebrew or English. ….you’ve added them in in order to support your preconceived ideas of “game”
Also we must understand something, is Genesis 3:16 a statement or a command? The reason why this question of mine is so important is because the maxim that man is to rule over women can be seen as either a natural consequence of Eve’s sin which would make that sentence a statement OR a command if God is actually telling us that we now SHOULD rule over women……I personally take Genesis 3:16 as a statement rather than a command
Also who gets to decide the criteria in who is fit enough to rule over a woman? Is it a certain high income bracket? Is it being a “bad boy” who doesn’t take crap from women? Does a man have to have a super flash car before he is deemed worthy to rule over a woman? Do you see how complicated this becomes? Who gets to determine the criteria in who is worthy to rule?
Also, good luck in finding any woman who will willingly submit to her partner “disciplining ” her, whether she be a churchian woman or a wordly woman….women have an inbuilt Jezebelic demonic rebellious attitude towards male authority and will NEVER willingly submit
Now don’t get me wrong, I believe the bible DOE’S instruct women to be in submission to male authority and women in the west are out of control now but this is in no way upholds the belief that only “fit men deserve to rule over women” I believe that women should be in submission regardless of whether a man is worthy enough or not, otherwise we will have a bunch of women running around defying their husband’s authority and leadership by claiming that they don’t have to be obedient because her man is failing the “shit tests” that she arbitrarily sets for him